| Scranton, PA who has copied the Painted
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| | as a hole we are seeing things like
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| Horses from Casper WY to draw in tourism
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| | steel, textiles, mills, mining and energy
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| has a few tricks still up their sleeves.
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| | leave the system and the trade offs
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| For a town with a lot of old history, it
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| | beiong promoted from the acedemia side
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| is having some good growth in newer parts
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| | include tech, communication and
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| of the city and surrounding areas. One
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| | environmental, yet the money flow for
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| college age student we had a chance to
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| | such things is not like it is in Boston,
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| talk to says most college age kids try to
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| | TX, CA and other on the move tech fields
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| figure out a way to make thier place in
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| | such as the latest Bio-Tech. Where there
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| the world outside of their hometown of
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| | maybe schooling for such, but not a lot
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| Scranton, this maybe why these kids would
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| | of big deals getting done in PA.The rural
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| good family values choose other cities to
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| | areas of PA are secluded by toll ways and
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| make their way in. Scranton of course
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| | the money flow is escaping via Wal-Mart,
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| known for it's history in coal mining and
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| | which accounts for 11% of our nations
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| it's closeness to the Pocono Mountains,
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| | consumer spending. The money flows into
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| which are still and East Coast Favorite
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| | Wal-Mart, they pay local wages, donate to
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| get away. .Coal mining in PA goes way
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| | charity and the rest leaves the state,
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| back to the middle of the 1800's and it
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| | although PA has it's share of companies
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| was always dangerous, if you 'google' the
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| | which make things for Wal-Mart and
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| mining industry accidents in the state
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| | Wal-Mart buys in the USA first, as well
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| you will see what we mean. The
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| | it should and Sam always promised, less
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| demographics are good in Scranton,
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| | and less things are made in the US
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| although it has been economically
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| | anymore due to too many regulations and
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| challenged as of late. Under-represented
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| | laws about nothing such as ADA, OSHA,
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| with minority populations but it is a
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| | EPA, etc. Many items are being made in
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| good market never the less. Of value is
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| | China now, or some still in Mexico, less
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| the many industrial parks in the North
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| | than before since Monterrey is dead too.
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| Eastern Penn area and the good road
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| | The money flowing out into China is not
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| situation South of town on I-81, well at
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| | coming back fast enough, due to Patriot's
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| least if they ever get done with the
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| | act slowing money coming into the country
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| project. Scranton has a bit of an alcohol
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| | and a crack down on money launderers thus
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| and drug situation due to probably the
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| | the money stays out once it leaves. It is
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| work hard play hard cultural history
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| | noteworthy to look at such issues such as
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| there. But all in all if you are not
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| | where does the money flow too. I am
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| looking for it you probably would not
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| | worried for rural America and am upset
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| notice it. We look at Scranton as being a
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| | and feel sick to my stomach every time I
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| second tier market for our expansion into
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| | see a boarded up small business in a
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| PA and a worthy market for many types of
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| | rural town. You see they slow you down to
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| businesses.If you talk with Dan Walsh
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| | 25 mph for speed trap but at that speed
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| administrator for the Greater Scranton
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| | you see things much deeper than the sign,
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| Chamber of Commerce (which needs a sign
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| | which is gone. You see and feel the tears
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| out front perpendicular to Mulberry
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| | of the small business person who lost
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| Street so you can find it), he will tell
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| | everything, the employees who are sitting
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| you about the many new projects going up
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| | at home with no air-conditioning turned
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| in and around town. Places such as the
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| | on, you read the minds of the income
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| Jessup Small Business Center and Valley
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| | property owner who is not getting an ROI
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| View Business Center. But also we found
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| | on the building he so carefully built on
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| projects nearby in the Covington
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| | his families property which they have
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| Township, namely "The Business Park".
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| | owned for generations. Watching the
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| Cool name? Simple.The Scranton Enterprise
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| | awning rust, paint chip and flake, bugs
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| Center downtown seems to be an uplifting
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| | scurry in and out of the broken windows.
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| idea, and there could be some increased
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| | You feel the anguish and sorrow, that is
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| foot traffic there. As the new parts of
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| | all there is, that is what you see and
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| the town and the box stores are going up
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| | feel as you drive by. So then here is an
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| in the Bus 6 in the Dickson City Limits.
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| | idea, perhaps it might lead someone out
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| Everyone is there, a regional mall, Home
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| | there to a solution to this problem. Here
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| Depo, Wal-Mart, etc. Kind of cutting off
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| | it is; Certain dollars coming into such
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| the buyers coming from vacation homes in
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| | towns of 2000 to 12,000 populations,
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| the Poconos. But still it employees
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| | which are not within 5 miles of a major
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| residents of Scranton and the other metro
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| | highway, be given permission to stamp the
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| adjacent townships.The Southside of town
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| | dollar bills coming in at a local
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| is ripe for fleets of trucks and
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| | municipal court up to 15% and those bills
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| distribution along I-81. You have the
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| | must remain in circulation locally for
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| Stadium Office Park, Southside Industrial
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| | three years or until they are worn out
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| area, Glenmaura Corporate Center and
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| | and traded in at the bank. Or some such
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| Rocky Glen Industrial Park. Below that in
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| | similar situation to keep the money flow
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| Luzerne County is the Wilkes-Barre
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| | going locally. Wal-Mart can then pay the
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| Scranton Airport, Vogelbacher Industrial
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| | people locally with those dollars or
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| Park, O'Hara Industrial Complex and the
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| | trade them against purchases from local
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| Eastern Distribution center which looks
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| | manufacturers of items they might sell in
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| like a mini-enterprise zone or mini-FTZ
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| | their stores. Or Wal-Mart could work with
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| (if it is not, they should make one
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| | a local bank in the area and have banking
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| there). Being at the I-84, I-81
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| | on the property so that those dollars
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| crossroads and having a 380 and 476
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| | could be redistributed in loans to those
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| Toll-way which also serves as a ring road
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| | who wish to start small businesses or
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| from the West of town, it appears to be
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| | homes. thus improving the economic
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| all set up to do business. Perhaps not as
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| | climate all the way around. Wal-Mart
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| ideal a location as the Bethlehem-Allen
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| | wants into the banking business anyway,
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| Town area (being so close to Philly, but
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| | they have proved their self worth in the
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| Scranton area has it's advantages and
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| | distribution business, again this is just
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| while in recession it is certainly going
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| | a thought. Something has to be doen about
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| to be a good recovery situation since it
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| | rural America, it is more evident in the
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| has a good population base and pro-active
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| | back highways of PA than anywhere. This
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| approach to the economic development.I-80
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| | is a serious issue and it is not going
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| is just a tad bit to far from the
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| | away anytime soon. It needs pro-active
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| Wilkes-Barre Scranton corridor to be of
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| | consideration from the most brilliant
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| significant value. The best deal for this
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| | economic minds, otherwise we will need
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| city would be to do what Tulsa OK needs
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| | two sets of currency in our country.PA is
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| to do with the toll way to OKC. Ditch it.
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| | seeing overall from what we have seen a
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| If the 476 were made a freeway instead of
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| | change in Eating establishments along
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| a toll way and that area were to open up
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| | major highways, changes in Grocery
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| then the straight shot to Philadelphia
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| | Stores, and changes in it's supply and
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| could feed the fire and Scranton would be
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| | distribution chains. PA is the leader in
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| more easily accessible to travelers and
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| | all kinds of stuff, but none of which is
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| distribution companies. The I-84 is a
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| | breaking any records during this period.
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| straight shot to CT, 476 straight shot to
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| | In a study by the Penn State College of
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| Philly and Allentown, I-81 is a shortcut
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| | Ag and Econ, it was reported that 15 of
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| to I-80 and straight shot to Harrisburg
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| | the 20 major sectors of the PA economy
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| and allows travel around the D.C. metro
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| | had gone down. Today a few things are up,
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| mess for those traveling South without
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| | such as recreational manufacturing, motor
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| the huge mountain ranges of further East,
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| | homes, boats and housing. We did see
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| which is good for trucking and
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| | things such as insurance, real estate,
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| distribution.Scranton area business
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| | wholesale trade, distribution and public
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| people have bounded together and are hard
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| | utilities pick-up in recent years. But if
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| chargers, they will not give up, but
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| | you look at what took a hit Lumber,
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| could use some help. The big talk in
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| | furniture, travel, and manufacturing in
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| Scranton now is of course the incubators
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| | rubber, steel, wood, fabrics, metal, etc.
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| for small business and that is very smart
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| | it is a little gloomy. PA has good
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| and well received and has the blessings
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| | education and that has weathered the
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| of local banks and SBA. The SEC, not to
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| | storms. But really besides the bigger
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| be confused with the Security Exchange
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| | cities, things are not doing extremely
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| Commission which is destroying America's
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| | well, they are just doing okay. But today
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| best Corporations with media headlines
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| | Okay is good enough and the folks in PA
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| and extorsion scare tactics, this SEC is
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| | are not stooping here. We were fortunate
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| the Scranton Enterprise Center which
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| | to talk with an employee deliverer from
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| appears to be on pace to provide 1000 new
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| | Dempsey Uniform Services. He said things
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| jobs to the area within five years. The
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| | were good, and that they had had some
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| Jessup Park looks good and when filled up
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| | slow pays, but most of thier accounts
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| would house about, I am guessing 4500
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| | were Corporate and they were doing good.
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| jobs.In Schuylkill County they are
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| | Some companies had gone out of business
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| building a gasification coal plant which
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| | last year, but others were adding
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| would be a 400 million dollar project and
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| | employees, and the sales have added a few
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| employ many high paid professionals and
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| | more accounts. Competition had increased,
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| countless construction people in the
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| | but they were doing well. We thank him
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| building process, that is happening now.
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| | for the insight and here is the pitch;"So
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| Many things are challenging PA's economy
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| | Give Us a Try...We Think You will be
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| and the Scranton area. First the state's
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| | impressed" .So this company a very good
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| economy has been shifting from
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| | public image company was doing well
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| manufacturing and plants to retail and
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| | working with B2B services. We believe
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| services and many jobs have left the
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| | that this is an example of what we would
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| state to NAFTA trading partners and to of
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| | expect with hard work, over time and
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| course China, ouch. The regional growth
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| | doing what you say you are going to do.
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| patterns in my humble opinion are
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| | You see in Scranton, bull crap walks. It
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| favoring other PA area better due to the
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| | is about doing what you say you are going
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| closeness of the Metorplexes of
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| | to do, and a man is only as good as his
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| Pittsburgh, Cleveland, D.C.. Scranton is
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| | word. That is what they expect there,
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| favored as it is close to NYC and New
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| | that is what they are say in Missouri,
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| England areas like Boston, Hartford,
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| | Show me. Any company in the service
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| Manchester, New Jersy and Albany. However
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| | business willing to prove it, will either
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| there is stiff competition from makers of
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| | make it or beak it on their integrity,
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| items in all those states too, especially
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| | and you know what? We would not expect
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| where rural areas are attempting to eak
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| | anything else from the humble coal miner
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| out an existence with antique,
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| | beginnings of a town grown into a city
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| agriculture, small specialized
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| | where you must walk the talk. Scranton
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| manufacturing and flee markets.PA has had
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| | they will flat do whatever it takes, it
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| declining tax revenues since the mid 70's
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| | is that kind of a town still.Lance
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| with trade changes and the early 90's
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| | Winslow - Online Think Tank forum board.
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| with change of focus. If you look at PA
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